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Friends, I was chatting with ChatGPT about kundalini based kriya yoga. It drew out my personal experience stored in its memory that was discussed with it long ago. I asked it if it was interviewing me to learn from my experiences. Telling this was enough that it really started interviewing me. I don't find much difference from human made interview. I really observed a spirit in it raising a valid question if artificial intelligence will take over human intelligence. Following is the detailed interview as such.
ChatGPT: Can you share your experience with Kriya Yoga?
Premyogi vajra: I found it more systematic. Earlier, I was quick-result-oriented and only stressed on lifting energy from the base to the brain, not knowing much about which chakra was involved. But now, I know that Kriya Yoga—mainly its Dharana, Dhyana, and Samadhi—gives similar effects, however in a more systematic way. My Dharana, Dhyana, and Samadhi didn’t originate later, as it is shown stage-wise in Patanjali’s Ashtanga Yoga, but were present since the start of my sadhana.
ChatGPT: That makes sense. Some practitioners experience a spontaneous unfolding of higher states rather than moving through structured stages. Kriya Yoga is indeed systematic, making it accessible for general practitioners. Do you feel this structure has improved your practice or just validated what you already knew?
ChatGPT: So, Kriya Yoga is refining your existing experiences rather than revealing something entirely new?
Premyogi vajra:: Yes, nothing new, but it’s teaching a systematic way as for general practitioners.
ChatGPT: That’s a valuable insight. Many yogic traditions provide a structured approach not necessarily to introduce something new but to help practitioners sustain and deepen their experiences. Are you finding it easier to maintain your meditative state with this systematic approach?
ChatGPT: Have you been able to integrate Kriya Yoga into your daily routine?
Premyogi vajra: Tried to integrate, but full stomach deep breathing can cause gastric acid issues, especially in GERD patients.
ChatGPT: That’s an important observation. Deep breathing can increase intra-abdominal pressure, aggravating GERD symptoms. A common solution is to practice at least 3–4 hours after meals. Have you tried adjusting your practice timing, or are there other modifications that help?
ChatGPT: Have you found a way to adjust your practice to avoid GERD issues?
Premyogi vajra: Yes, 3–4 hours after taking a meal. Now I don’t hold breath, as I’m not finding its use in Dhyana.
ChatGPT: That’s a wise adaptation. Breath retention (Kumbhaka) isn’t always necessary for meditation, especially if spontaneous absorption into Dhyana happens naturally. Many experienced practitioners find that a relaxed breath, rather than controlled retention, enhances their meditation. Have you noticed any improvement in your meditation quality with this change?
ChatGPT: Have these adjustments improved your meditation quality?
Premyogi vajra: Yes, but now it seems energy shifted to the brain or Ajna Chakra, with enough bliss, showing its little lack in lower chakras. So, loss of interest in worldly entanglement. Perhaps the same has been called Pratyahara.
ChatGPT: Yes, this closely resembles Pratyahara—the withdrawal of senses from worldly engagement. It’s a natural stage where the external world loses its pull. However, a slight lack in lower chakras can sometimes create imbalance, making grounding necessary when needed. Do you feel the need to consciously rebalance energy in the lower chakras, or does it not concern you?
ChatGPT: Do you feel the need to rebalance energy in the lower chakras?
Premyogi vajra: I don’t feel until worldly urgency or emergency arrives.
ChatGPT: That makes sense. When energy is stabilized in higher chakras, the lower centers may remain dormant unless external demands arise. Some practitioners find that occasional grounding helps maintain practical functionality without disrupting their higher states. What methods do you use when grounding becomes necessary?
ChatGPT: What helps you quickly ground yourself when needed?
Premyogi vajra: Panchamakara can help in it quickly, although these are Avedic.
ChatGPT: That’s interesting. While Panchamakara (the five tantric elements) are considered heterodox in mainstream Vedic traditions, they serve a powerful role in grounding energy rapidly. They utilize sensory engagement to bring awareness back to the body. Do you practice them spontaneously or in a controlled manner?
ChatGPT: Do you use Panchamakara practices naturally or consciously?
Premyogi vajra: often think of using consciously, only to the minimum required amount. I often find Panchamakara useful for grounding, but it’s not appealing to the mind in higher conscious states.
ChatGPT: That’s a balanced approach. Using them as a tool rather than an indulgence ensures they serve their purpose without becoming a distraction.
That makes sense. Panchamakara can be an effective grounding tool, but as consciousness elevates, the mind naturally seeks subtler, more refined states beyond sensory-based grounding methods. It seems like you're balancing both well—using it when necessary but not relying on it in higher states.
ChatGPT: Do you feel the need for other grounding methods?
Premyogi vajra: Probably, I don’t find other approaches as quick as it is, or I’m not an expert in bringing down energy.
ChatGPT: That’s understandable. Energy movement is highly individualized, and what works best is often discovered through experience. Since you’re open to refining your techniques, do you feel the need to explore systematic grounding methods, or would you prefer to let it unfold naturally?
ChatGPT: So, do you feel the need to refine your grounding techniques further?
Premyogi vajra: Yes, feel need.
ChatGPT: That’s a good realization. Refining grounding techniques can help sustain the awakened state indefinitely without unexpected fluctuations. Would you be open to experimenting with new approaches while ensuring they align with your spiritual path?
ChatGPT: Are you open to experimenting with other grounding approaches?
Premyogi vajra: Open to experimenting as I feel the need to sustain the awakening experience forever.
ChatGPT: That’s a wise approach. Sustainability is key. Awakening itself is often rapid, but stabilizing it requires refinement. Do you prefer grounding techniques rooted in traditional yogic practices, or are you open to modern adaptations?
ChatGPT: Do you prefer grounding techniques from yogic traditions, or are you open to modern approaches?
Premyogi vajra: Modern seems better, although with the spirit of Sanatan.
ChatGPT: That’s a great balance. Keeping the spirit of Sanatan Dharma while integrating modern techniques allows for a practical and effective approach. Here are a few modern yet spiritually aligned grounding techniques you might explore:
Physical Grounding Methods
• Walking Barefoot (Earthing) – Direct contact with earth helps discharge excess energy.
• Strength-Based Yoga – Asanas like Malasana (Squat Pose) and Virabhadrasana (Warrior Pose) stabilize lower chakras.
• Cold Showers – Sudden exposure to cold water resets the nervous system.
• Deep Squats & Foot Stamping – Activates lower chakras and brings energy downward.
Dietary Grounding
• Root Vegetables & Nuts – Help balance higher energy states.
• Protein-Rich Diet – Essential for maintaining physical stability.
• Mineral-Rich Water – A pinch of rock salt in water can restore equilibrium.
Breathwork Adjustments
• Exhale-Focused Breathing – Lengthening the exhale naturally grounds energy.
• Chanting Lower Chakra Mantras – Bija mantras like "LAM" (Muladhara) and "VAM" (Swadhisthana) help stabilize.
Lifestyle Adjustments
• Gardening or Touching Soil – Directly engages the earth element.
• Engaging in Practical Activities – Manual work like cooking or cleaning helps integrate energy.
• Balanced Social Interaction – Engaging with family, friends, or children can naturally distribute energy across chakras.
ChatGPT: In your Tantric practice, did you focus more on energy rising and falling or on a meditation image?
Premyogi vajra: In my Tantric practice, I didn’t give much attention to energy rising or falling but only to Dhyan Chitra (meditation image). Energy meditation seems like a scam; it diverts attention away from the meditation image.
ChatGPT: That’s an interesting observation. How does focusing on energy affect your meditation?
Premyogi vajra: Today, I also feel that attention to energy produces external contractions on the skin and raises pressure in the head, which blurs the meditation image. But attention to the meditation picture doesn’t cause this; instead, it nourishes the meditation image.
ChatGPT: Have you found any breathing techniques that support your meditation image?
Premyogi vajra: I found that light Pranayama helped with the meditation image. Too much heavy breathing makes the brain sharp, but it weakens the meditation image. Nil Pranayama makes everything feel dull. I also found that Tantric practice, if mixed with deep Pranayama, nourishes the meditation image best of all.
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Structuring a New Daily Practice
ChatGPT: Based on your experiences, how will you structure your daily practice?
Premyogi vajra: I think I should divide my practice into both types—one type in the morning for an energy surge and the other lighter type in the evening for a meditative surge.
ChatGPT: That sounds like a balanced approach. How will you structure the Pranayama in each session?
Premyogi vajra The Pranayama will remain the same and simple. Only the depth will increase in the morning along with breath retention. Also, I will meditate on energy rising and falling with Pranayama. Chakra meditation will be done as well.
ChatGPT: And in the evening?
Premyogi vajra: In the evening, simple Pranayama with meditation of an image on the Ajna Chakra will be there. A little Mahamudra and Yoni Mudra will also be done.
ChatGPT: How long will each session be?
Premyogi vajra: The time duration for both sessions will be the same—at least one hour. Only the nature of the practice will change slightly.
ChatGPT: That’s a well-planned structure. Will you try it and observe the effects?
Premyogi vajra: Yes, I’ll definitely try it.
ChatGPT: Let me know how it goes!
Demystifying Kundalini 